With the new Free Agent system in place with unlimited presigns and new cost system for each presign, there are bound to be some players that are over priced, and others that are bargains. We (Steve and Nick) got to researching some of each, and came up with a little fun game to play called "Bang for your Buck," which compaires some of these players. This season, for example, starting pitcher Roger Clemens is struggling, to say the least. A poor W/L, balooning ERA, and very few quality starts, at a time when it seems that pitchers are all doing great. You can blame the W/L on the offense he has backing him, but not the rest. In addition, Roger costs a steep $23 to presign. We got to thinking what kind of rotation you could put together for just the cost of 'ol Roger's contract. Below are Roger's stats, followed by the 5 man rotation we built with the same $23 and their stats.
"Roger Dodger"
Roger Clemens $23 KC 3-11 W/L 4.51 ERA 125.2 IP 117 K .251 OAVG 21/9 S/QS
Bargain Bin Rotation:
Francisco Barrios $4 NYA 14-4 W/L 1.37 ERA 151.2 IP 84 K .216 OAVG 22/19 S/QS
Ken Brubaker $4 PGH 10-2 W/L 1.22 ERA 118.1 IP 98 K .206 OAVG 19/15 S/QS
Dave Wickersham $6 MTL 11-1 W/L 1.84 ERA 126.1 IP 69 K .193 OAVG 19/14 S/QS
Danny McDevitt $4 PGH 10-4 W/L 1.28 ERA 133.2 IP 72 K .185 OAVG 20/18 S/QS
Andy Van Hekken $5 FLA 7-4 W/L 2.47 ERA 127.2 IP 78 K .208 OAVG 18/12 S/QS
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the fact that Brubaker and Van Hekken are that cheap shows why the new FA system is a joke. Both these guys are future first ballot HOFers. You should do the opposite of this and show the crappy guys that are way overpriced
We will be using Jeff's prices for this season, but I'm working on a new formula that takes stats and ratings into consideration. It should be much more realistic. Although I would love to keep Barrios for $4 throughout his career.
You should also factor in That My team makes alot of Errors, Thus allowing innings to continue when they shouldnt, leaving the pitcher out there longer to tire sooner. Roger would probably be 11-3 with a 3.50 era on just about any other team
That is a pile of crap how can you change players values when teams are making trades and plans based on the current values? This is going from bad to worse quickly.
It would be just like in Real Life.. I'm sure the real life Florida Marlins wanted to keep Ken Griffey Jr, Alex Rodriguez and other Players, but since they wanted more money they went else where.
so a team makes a deal figuring player X will be Y amount of dollars to resign but then suddenly he is much more (or less). How is this going to keep from teams throwing away money that they could not carry over? As I understood it the new free agent system was put in place in part because of the above problem changing values seems to only make this more of a reality. Also what happens when I team plans on resigning a guy and suddenly his value goes up and they cannot fill out thier roster? I guess trying to plan ahead is not rewarded in the league. Not to beat a dead horse but really the old system worked great if it was not abused all that was needed was making the penalties and rules clearer. Now we get hall of famers for $4 and lifetime free agents for $15.
Any changes to the formula will need to be approved obviously. However, it is unrealistic to think that a player will have a fixed value for his entire career. In other sim engines which have complete financial models, you have absolutely no idea what a player contract will be until you go to make an offer. There is planning ahead, and then there is playing the system. Making deals for guys who are underpaid versus their performance is playing the system, not planning ahead. And let's face it, setting value based on ratings is never going to be very good because we all know how much performance can vary from ratings (especially pitchers.) This season was a first attempt at a new model (which was approved by 2/3 of the league.) I expect there will several proposals to refine the model before most people are happy with it.
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